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I started this blog to facilitate the intelligent conversation around the AMD & Intel battle that could be happening on the Doctor's blog but doesn’t. I haven't been here for 3 years. The world has changed - so I am changing the title and focus of the blog. It's no longer Intel vs AMD - but really Intel vs the range of ARM players in a new world where computing and communications have collided forever. An analytical and intelligent POV will be appreciated.
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Prepare to wait longer
Barcelona delayed to fourth quarter, Cray takes a hit:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070604/cray_mover.html?.v=1
"Now is the winter of our discontent". - AMD fanboy
Are you really expecting AMD to provide benchmarks at Barcelona?!!? While I think many fans and press have assumed this will be the case - AMD has never confirmed this.
My best guess - a more elaborate "POV type benchmark" with a glaring lack of details (like clockspeed) and more unsubstantiated claims about scaling, performance/watt, performance per clock speed, performance per manhour of design time, performance per daylight hour on a day of a full moon in the month of December, etc... after all they don't want Intel to "copy" the architectural improvements and have a chance to plan a response! (sarcasm intended)
If the Cray announcement is any indication of health of K10, AMD has some additional steppings left to do (especially as Cray is relatively low volume in the grand scheme of things).
I would not expect to see anything substantial at Computex...
Come on "launch" / "introduction" /[insert latest PR terminology to maximize wiggle room if schedule goes to hell] is "mid-2007". My guess is AMD will be claiming "introduction" was done when they showed POV, thus they were actually AHEAD of their commitments!
With AMD's advanced production and unmatched APM3.0 technology, AMD is now able to carefully narrow the window to "mid-2007"
After all it's June 2007, it's not like it's mid-2007 yet?!?! Wait a sec your telling me some folk may interpret June as being in the middle of the year! It's not like Computex is that big a deal, they could always go to Tunisia or maybe the Northpole for the launch(to help with the FSN8 cooling!)
News Flash!
AMD Validated Server Program Partners Unveil First Platforms Demonstrating Upcoming Quad-Core AMD Opteron™ Processors at Computex Taipei
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070604006379&newsLang=en
"“Barcelona” processors are expected to deliver up to 50 to 80 percent performance and performance-per-watt improvements on a broad range of server applications over similar current generation AMD Opteron processors."
LOL! So much about beating Intel's best CPUs. Rhetoric of performance claims now against their own existing Opteron line.
Pathetic.
hey anonymous, no need to get all rattled up there...
AMD's mid-07 always means sept~ oct.
Well, summer is in the middle of the year on northern hemisphere and if tehey define the midyear launch as launch during summer they still have time until 23'rd September.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dHikwhB5bDU
Jekyll, old chap, that ad you've put on your blog is too big and too distracting.
"Well, summer is in the middle of the year on northern hemisphere and if they define the midyear launch as launch during summer they still have time until 23'rd September."
Classic! So summer now defines "mid-year"? Here I was thinking calendar months would be a bit more accurate...thanks for correcting me.
Taking this a bit further.. beginning... middle... end... By your seasonal definition anything before June 21 is the "beginning of the year"? Or is there another category between the "beginning" of the year and the "middle", how about "late beginning" or "early middle". Is winter the End of the year or the beginning of the year?
For my purposes:
Beginning of year: Jan-Apr
Middle: May-Aug
End: Sept-Dec
One would think they could have just said launch in the summer than mid-year or maybe even give the months (Like Jul-Sept) or say Q3, no? It's amazing what AMD fans will claim to cover up the fact that Barcelona is starting to slip (a little bit at least). AMD played this mid-year crap to give them wiggle room.... it was the same thing with 4x4, 65nm (well it SHIPPED by end of year!), "hard" R600 launch, etc... AMD's parsing and qualifying of words is getting ridiculous!
How about available for benchmark month and available for purchase month? Of course that gives them no margin for baking in delays or allowing crazy fanboys to make up ridiculous excuses like they obviously meant "summer" to forgive execution issues.
You know what, I figured out what AMD doing "hard launches" means - it means you will have a hard time finding the product for the next 3 months? How are those graphics cards (that have no issues and are just waiting for a hard launch all at once) doing by the way? When AMD said "May" they meant it "may" be July....
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7554
The answer to the blog's question! (I'll keep folks in suspense....just follow the link)
You want Barcelona?
HERE'S BARCELONA
Clocked at a whopping 1.6Ghz on the latest silicon, it ran Cinebench, a benchmark that is historically pretty favorable to the Athlon64/Opteron processors by the way.
Results? Well, they couldn't find a Xeon slow enough for a clock-for-clock comparison, but the same benchmark on a 2.4Ghz Xeon was 58% faster.... meaning an existing Intel CPU that is clocked 50% faster than the Barcelona beats it by more than its clockspeed advantage.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
"Taking this a bit further.. beginning... middle... end... By your seasonal definition anything before June 21 is the "beginning of the year"? Or is there another category between the "beginning" of the year and the "middle", how about "late beginning" or "early middle". Is winter the End of the year or the beginning of the year?"
AMD might be referring to their fiscal year which could be June 1 to May 31! So mid year would be around December.
-funnyguy
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